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Bring North Korea In From The Cold

Wed May 27, 2009 12:31 PM EDT
world-news, china, japan, north-korea, south-korea, nuclear-weapons, economic-development, containment, the-united-states
By multifariousone

There is a huge disparity in the economies of North and South Korea

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The situation on the Korean Peninsula has been tense for over 5 decades, but this current nuclear crisis bears special attention.

There is much speculation surrounding North Korea's current saber rattling. The recent underground nuclear explosion and the testing of three short-range missiles highlights the oft argued idea that North Korea is using nuclear weapons primarily as a political tool to begin re-establishing normal relations with the U.S., Japan and South Korea, and to end the long-standing economic embargo against it.

The threat of nuclear weapons is the only thing that has brought the U.S., Japan and South Korea into serious negotiations with North Korea, a country that cries out for respect and recognition. They now apparently want to be regarded as part of the "nuclear club".

Further to this argument is the observation that many parties have a vested interest in the claim that North Korea has nuclear weapons. For North Korea, it has been a bargaining tool for opening diplomatic discussions. North Korea has consistently used their nuclear development program as a threat in order to manipulate the West into granting foreign aid and other concessions from the West and its nearest neighbors including China and Japan. No one believes that the North would launch a first strike of nuclear weapons against the South or anyone else. But the threat that they might sell nuclear weapons to other states or non-state players is a real one.

The North Korean regime has the same goal as any regime – survival. For this reason there can be no doubt that North Korea would only attack the South as a last ditch act of retaliation. They know that an attack on South Korea would bring a furious response from South Korean and American forces, and they know what annihilation is. They know that an attack on the South would be tantamount to suicide.

But something is going on in North Korea that has not yet been publicly disclosed. It could be a power struggle.
It is known that Kim Jong Il, the North's "Dear Leader", had a stroke back in August and no one outside of his inner circle really knows what his condition is. He could be ill or somehow otherwise impaired. No one knows for sure. And, as secretive as this regime is, no one can really tell what is really happening. For that, we'll have to wait. But one thing is absolutely for sure, Kim Jong Il, at best, is unpredictable.
Kim Jong Il is 68 years old and reportedly in ill health. Apparently he has chosen his third son to be his successor. Whether there is a struggle for control of the government between his heirs, other political factions or possibly the military, or all of them, no one can be sure.

One thing is for sure though, as many issues as President Barack Obama must deal with, North Korea is one of the most complex.

The Demilitarized Zone, established as a buffer along the 38th parallel divides more than two countries; the divide separates the armies of the North and the South and over 30,000 American troops as well.
Chillingly, it also separates thousands of hidden artillery pieces which are pointed in both directions.
Seoul, South Korea's capital is less than 40 miles south of the DMZ, well within range of the North's arsenal. If hostilities were to break out it would surely create a lashing out by North Korea's ill-equipped but large and fanatical military across the DMZ. North Korea deploys more than 1 million soldiers near the DMZ, and its 11,000 long-range artillery pieces hidden nearby could rain destruction on the South Korean city of Seoul only 40 miles away. Seoul is both the political and economic capital of South Korea and home to one fifth of the South Korean population.
The "greater" Seoul area, as of 2007, had a population of nearly 25 million people, all within range of the North's arsenal of long-range artillery.

For years the North has suffered from famine and shortages of everything including fuel and equipment for its army. But in spite of these chronic shortages the forces of North Korea would inflict massive destruction upon the South using their conventional weapons alone. While the North's arsenal would surely be taken out within two or three days, and the North's highly trained commandos hunted down and killed, millions of South Korean's would be killed and horrendous levels of devastation would rain down upon South Korea's major cities before the North could be stopped. Millions would die.

The goal of The United States, South Korea and China which shares a nearly 900 mile border with North Korea, is maintenance of the status quo.

It must be remembered that the divide between the North and the South is a political line that has divided Korean families for 55 years. Since the end of the war in 1953 mothers and fathers have been separated from their children and brothers and sisters divided from their siblings. There is a longing on the part of all of these people for unification.
But the South Korean's learned an important lesson from the unification of East and West Germany. The German economy was hit hard as the GDP of the East was much smaller than the West's. The German economy is still suffering the consequences. The disparity between the economies and cultures of North and South Korea are of a vastly greater magnitude.

The South Korean's want an orderly unification taking place over decades in order to develop the North's economy and to create social order. A sudden collapse of the North Korean regime would be devastating.
Imagine the predicament of the South Korean people. Suddenly millions of refugees would want to pour into the south and the south would have to stop them. Millions of refugees stacked up on the border would create a terrible moral conflict for the Korean people.

Food and medical aid would cost billions. Housing would become a critical issue as Korea's winters are long and harsh as our troops found out in the early 1950's.

China would be faced with two issues that they don't want to have to deal with. First, millions of refugees would crowd their borders as well and, two, the Chinese would be faced with the prospect of the American military on their borders. In that regard North Korea currently acts as a buffer.

The United States, China, South Korea and Japan can probably tolerate a nuclear armed North Korea as long as it remains stable and agrees not to sell weapons, weapons grade plutonium or other components of a nuclear weapon. A mechanism for containment and inspection would be an absolute necessity.

North Korea might also be bribed as it is also time to begin to help develop the North Korean economy, a task that is strategically important to, and could be shared by, the United States, China, South Korea and Japan, Russia and the rest of the world.

North Korea must be brought in from the cold. Helping them to develop economically is the way to do it.

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multifariousone

Economic development is the only possible solution.

Economist Roubini says North Korea should follow economic models of China, Vietnam

    Reply#1 - Wed May 27, 2009 12:42 PM EDT
    crocodile-1126985

    I couldn't disagree with you more. Appeasement in the form of economic incentives has repeatedly failed as a tactic with North Korea and the regime is fervently communist. The Kaeson economic district has achieved little more than allowing the South to exploit cheaper labour while supplying the North with a railway line by which they can transport military goods. While I would love to see the North Korean people brought into the world of laws, rights and democracy, I think this will take internal change before external assistance has any meaning.

    America should protect its geostrategic assets in the 4 power frame by providing a credible counter balance of force - I think Japan should take a more realpolitik view of pacifism and realize that only a balance of forces will achieve peace. The cold war in Europe might have been scary, but it did guarantee peace these last 50 years - almost unheard of in European power history.

    A nuclear Japan, aegis defence system and a stronger Taiwan are what America needs to encourage. Hold NK in until it crumbles, and then the nation building operation can begin.

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    Reply#2 - Wed May 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT
    multifariousone

    I couldn't disagree with you more but thanks for expressing your opinion.

    Appeasement in the form of economic incentives has repeatedly failed as a tactic with North Korea and the regime is fervently communist.

    Communism is not the problem, totalitarianism is.

    The Kaeson economic district has achieved little more than allowing the South to exploit cheaper labour while supplying the North with a railway line by which they can transport military goods.

    A lack of consistency is the problem. Bush had no idea what he was doing and destroyed any goodwill that there was. The closing of the "sunshine policy" is another example of inconsistancy.

    While I would love to see the North Korean people brought into the world of laws, rights and democracy, I think this will take internal change before external assistance has any meaning.

    The threat of regime collapse is the problem. The current regime will never change from within without being given reason to do so. I can think of nothing else but economic development to begin to achieve this.

    America should protect its geostrategic assets in the 4 power frame by providing a credible counter balance of force

    This is exactly what we've done since 1953 and it has left us where we are today.

    A nuclear Japan

    is unthinkable to the Japanese people, the Koreans and the Chinese.

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    Reply#3 - Wed May 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT
    crocodile-1126985

    Well, at least we agree that a lack of consistency is a key problem. We just choose entirely opposite solutions to that lack of consistency.

    A nuclear Japan is unthinkable - and people need to start rethinking that. I would argue that America hasn't provided a credible counter balancing force at all. Last time Korea had a nuclear test the Chinese immediately used the weakend stance to challenge American support of Taiwan.

    They play you like a harp.

      #3.1 - Thu May 28, 2009 1:59 PM EDT
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      BKER1492

      Seoul is out of range of North Korean Artillery. North Korea would have to invade about 10-20 miles into South Korea to hit it, and North Korea has 1 million men brainwashed enough to try.

      And that is why the USA will not sign the International Landmine ban, for there is one for every North Korean planted along that DMZ.

        Reply#4 - Wed May 27, 2009 6:36 PM EDT
        multifariousone

        Seoul is out of range of North Korean Artillery. North Korea would have to invade about 10-20 miles into South Korea to hit it, and North Korea has 1 million men brainwashed enough to try.

        Completley untrue:

        North Korean guns, clear and present danger to South

        The capital Seoul, only 60 km (37 miles) south of the heavily fortified Demilitarized Zone that has divided the peninsula since the end of the Korean War in 1953, has long been within range of one of the world's most powerful artillery batteries.

        South Korea's Defense Ministry said the North had amassed more than 13,000 pieces of artillery and multiple rocket launchers, much of it aimed at Seoul.

        Jane's International Defense Review estimates that if North Korea launched an all-out barrage, it could achieve an initial fire rate of 300,000 to 500,000 shells per hour into the Seoul area -- home to about half the country's 48.5 million people.

        And that is why the USA will not sign the International Landmine ban, for there is one for every North Korean planted along that DMZ.

        No doubt.

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        Reply#5 - Wed May 27, 2009 6:48 PM EDT
        cedartree-

        bunch of baloney, Kim Jong Il is 68 years old and can stay warm in the nuclear holes he just made.

        warm greenhouse farms with your nuclear power kim jong il, thats how you make food for your people.

          Reply#6 - Wed May 27, 2009 6:49 PM EDT
          BKER1492

          Dude, the longest range artillery piece in North Korea (172MM) has a range of 24-30 miles, and 35 miles with rocket assisted shells. Any everything else they have shoots in the 5-15 mile range. They would have to drive all of the 172s into the river on the border just to get near the suburbs.

            Reply#7 - Wed May 27, 2009 7:15 PM EDT
            BKER1492

            And before you ask...... They have approx 500 172MMs, each loaded with 12 rounds. The next largest piece (240MM MRLS) only goes 21 miles. So IF they drove ALL 500 172s into a 1 mile stretch of the river on the border that is closest to Seoul, and IF they fired all of them until empty, they could put 6000 rounds within about 2 miles of the outer suburbs.

              Reply#8 - Wed May 27, 2009 7:43 PM EDT
              multifariousone

              I'm no expert on armaments but I think Jane's is....so what's up with their assessment?

                Reply#9 - Wed May 27, 2009 8:01 PM EDT
                BKER1492

                Beats me. Janes is usually pretty good. And thoerectically, IF every single weapon in the NKs inventory drove into the barbed-wire DMZ, in the section closest to Seoul, and fired until empty, with no response by the SKs, and reloaded with no response from the SKs, and kept firing for hours with no response from the SKs, they could concievably beat up all the towns between Seoul and the border. With a tail wind and a running start, a few shells from the 172s might even land close enough that you would see the smoke from downtown. Check out:

                http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/m-1978-170.htm

                  Reply#10 - Wed May 27, 2009 8:14 PM EDT
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